Elections

Nov. 2nd, 2004 09:49 pm
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So I'm sitting here in my apartment listening to the live election coverage on NPR, and occasionally seeing some of it the TV in the laundry room as I go down to rotate my laundry.


Still too close to call. Florida, predictably, is already having problems, with the Republicans for some reason delaying the count of all the absentee ballots. Which, since many of them are from the military, who tend to vote Republican, would favor Bush, so I don't know why they're trying to prevent them from being counted.

But, anyway. The results so far are predictable - Bush taking the South, and the midwest (though it looks like my new state, Missouri, might actually go to Kerry! That'd be cool.) Kerry doing well on the coasts. Pretty much the same thing as 2000, where Bush got 90% of the acres of land, but Gore got more actual votes. Of the states that are in, Bush has 197 electoral votes, and Kerry has 112, according to the BBC, but it's not as depressing as it seems, as the west coast, including California, aren't in that count yet.

I hate to seem like I'm accusing everyone who disagrees with me of willing ignorance or just stupidity, but here's a very telling statistic: 85% of those saying they are voting for Bush also believe that Saddam Hussein was instrumental in the 9/11 attacks. What does that say about how much attention Bush supporters are really paying to their man? 70% also believe that we found the dread Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq. WTF??! Are Americans really that stupid?? (Don't answer that [livejournal.com profile] casfic :)

What's really sad is how many states the christian wacko fuckheads were able to get their anti-gay ballots on, and then how many people fell for it. Yay! Bring back legal bigotry! Things just haven't been the same since we started letting Blacks go to our schools and buy property in our neighborhoods. Let's do to gays what we did to them! Hooray! You people make me sick. ("You people" I rather suspect doesn't actually apply to anyone reading this). How the FUCK can people actually believe that selecting some group, any group, and declaring that they have less rights than the rest of us is a good idea? Nine out of the 11 states that the Christian Nutbar Coalition (motto: "well, we got all these billions of tax-free dollars, we gotta do something with it") got their ballot into have passed. Oregon is still up in the air. If you guys pass it, I'm gonna officially disown y'all. Of course, I'm in one of the states that already passed it. Apparently, Missourians thought that declaring gays to be second-class citizens was such a high priority compared to little things like taxes, education, health care, crime, etc., that they voted for it back in August.

Oh, hey, here's something that proves just how far we've come since the 19th century: We just now, about a minute ago, elected a Black man to the Senate. Which brings the total number of black people in the senate to...um... one.

God this country makes me sick sometimes. Oh, look, Bush took another state. Fuck it, I'm gonna go put my laundry in the drier. Oh, yeah, Florida's having even more problems now. They're just getting back at the rest of us for all those jokes about their state being America's Penis.

Date: 2004-11-03 09:22 am (UTC)
From: (Anonymous)
I was actually reading something interesting the other day about how both sides can look at the same evidence and see something radically different there. Although I really have difficulty accepting how such a large number of people take 'we found no WMD' to equate to 'there were WMD in Iraq'. The world view that does this is so alien from everything I know that I cannot comprehend it.

I'm saddened to see such a victory for intolerance.

Cas
(can't log in from work)
(sorry for ranting in your lj)

Date: 2004-11-03 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] plutherus.livejournal.com
Well, I can't speak for everybody, but the reason I keep saying that there were no weapons of mass destruction isn't just because we didn't find any but because the UN inspection teams said there weren't any, and because Bush kept lying about finding them, from the aluminum tubes that he said were for nuclear bombs when he had already been told they couldn't be used for them, to the statements he made about nuclear materials passing through Nigeria, which he knew to be false, recanted on, then started claiming as fact again, and all those times when it was reported we found, for instance, a warehouse for chemical weapons that was found out to be a carport with two propane tanks that got exaggerated up through the chain of reporting...

Not saying Saddam Hussein's a great person or deserves anything less than to be tortured in one of our prisons over there (not that he is: by all accounts, he's being treated better than any of the several thousand innocent civilians we've got there), but some numbers that Bush supporters will never admit to:
Estimated number of innocent Iraqis killed by Saddam Hussein during his entire reign: 80,000
Estimated number of innocent Iraqis killed by Clinton during his 8 years in office: 2,000,000 (through ongoing support of the crippling sanctions and an average of 2 attacks per month, repeatedly destroying water purification and sewage treatment facilities)
Estimated number of innocent Iraqis killed by Bush since the start of his war: 100,000.

For those limited to black-and-white good-vs-evil terms: NONE of these actions are good. It doesn't matter that each of these people claimed the other was Evil, it still doesn't make any of them Good.

OK, I've wasted too much time on lj - time for me to go in to work.

Date: 2004-11-03 03:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 31seel.livejournal.com
The annoying thing is, that it is unbiblical. One Man & One Woman.... At the very least, it should have allowed multiple women to be truly biblical.

Well, step one toward Heinlein's Multiple Marriage family structure has been shot to hell.

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