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The Oregonian has an article about traffic fines in Oregon. A current lawsuit challenges suspension of drivers licenses for unpaid traffic tickets.
You may not be surprised to learn that I had a few words to say on the subject.

Here they are )
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Actually, it wasn't so bad this time. I got a ticket for parking on the street downtown with expired tags a couple of weeks ago.

I meant to get around to it - just wasn't sure how I could register my car in Eugene when I spend so much time lately in Portland.

Last night, I got home and there was a sticker on my window that the landlord had put there threatening to tow the car because the tags were expired.
What the hell? The car was parked in my own reserved parking space. Since when is my car's status with the DMV any business at all of the landlords? Who appointed them registration tag enforcers? Yeah, we're having some words when I get home.

But for now, today I went in to the downtown Portland DMV to see if anything could be done up here, thinking maybe I'd have to get a temporary permit or something, then take a day off work to go down to Eugene to register it "permanently".

Turns out, yeah, something could be done from Portland: Fill out a form, give them some money, and they handed me the new renewal stickers right there. Yeah, an hour wait, then five minutes at the counter, and I was done.

So, tonight I go home, put the new stickers on my car, and go yell at the landlord for a bit. Yay.
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Yesterday, I went to court for a traffic ticket.

I got pulled over a few weeks ago and discovered my license had been suspended for failure to appear in court a couple of years ago for a speeding ticket, which I plead guilty to and paid online.

So, for the driving while suspended, I went to court to see a judge and plea my case. I was still found guilty, but I was hoping that perhaps the fact that I took care of everything immediately, and was constantly insured in the meantime would count in my favor, but it did not.

The judge did, however, give me the same discount he gave the four other driving while suspended cases before me, reducing the fine from $688 down to $510. Joys. I saw the clerk after me who set me up with a payment plan, so I don't have to pay it all at once, so that'll be nice.

A couple of interesting notes, though:
1. I think it really showcases their priorities when they charge you $370 for driving too fast (which theoretically could put someone in danger), but the charge for not paying them on time is $688.

2. I got the Driving While Suspended ticket after being pulled over for not using my turn signals "far enough in advance". (A violation, I might add, that's so bogus there isn't even a category for it - the cop coded it as "Failure to signal".) He then ran my license and discovered my license was suspended.

Actually, that second part isn't true, and that's the part I find interesting. He didn't actually discover my license was suspended after he pulled me over. It was, apparently, the reason he pulled me over.

The judge made a few remarks about this during the earlier cases, and I asked him a couple of questions myself. Putting everything together, what I gather is:
1. Under Oregon law, the police cannot pull you over because they suspect you are driving on a suspended license (or without insurance for that matter).
2. The law, however, does not prohibit the police from downloading lists of people with suspended licenses from the DMV, cross-referenced by the license plates of their registered cars.
3. Driving with a suspended license is one of the highest routine fines aside from littering.
4. So the city of Beaverton, seeing a lucrative opportunity here, has been giving the lists of suspended drivers (cross-referenced to their cars) to the police, who then, when they find one of these cars, of which there are a great many, they follow it for a bit to find something to pull them over for. It is an oft-quoted aphorism that any police officer can find a reason to pull over a car within five minutes of following them. Turns out that even if they can't find a reason, they can just make something up. Since they never actually charge you with what they're pulling you over for, you can't defend against it in court. What they really want is that lucrative driving while suspended fine.

The whole thing is rather shady-seeming, and not really quite honest. But, there it is.

And, of course, it's just one more way our society is geared to get money from the poor while leaving the rich mostly alone. Because, face it, who gets their licenses suspended for the most part (aside from people like me who are just spectacularly irresponsible)? Yep, the working poor and the unemployed. And, especially since Beaverton (and probably other cities) are now using it as a reliable revenue stream, it is simply yet another tax that poor people pay that wealthier people don't have to.

Especially the guy who was before me, but I'll tell his story later...
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Yay!

Not only did I finally get a license, an honest-to-goodness drivers license, but I got a collection agency into legal trouble in the mean time!

It's been a very good day.

Oh, except that I learned I'm not getting the job in the biotech firm in San Diego that I was interviewing for. They wanted, in the words of the recruiter, "somebody less qualified".

And one of the people who was supposed to interview me today for the job in Chicago was out on vacation. Gee, you think the HR department would have checked with her before scheduling her to interview someone, huh? This does not bode well.

Heh. And then, as I write this, a job that had interviewed me a couple of months ago in Orange, California, then decided they weren't going to hire anybody, has apparently discovered just how incredibly stupid it is not to have somebody in that position, and is now hiring again. The recruiter just called me while I was writing to ask if I was still available. Who knows, maybe things'll work out yet...
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If anyone reading this lives in or near Eugene, you may have heard a very loud screech coming from the general direction of the DMV.

That would be me.

For those of you following my neverending quest to get a driver's license (I think I might give up and go find the Holy Grail instead, it's gotta be easier than this, and you don't have to deal with so many goddamn fuckheads!), a brief summary:

Timeline of Pat's Driver's license: )

DMV Woes

Dec. 22nd, 2003 05:05 pm
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Well, I gotta say, the rumours I've heard in the past were true:
Eugene really does have the best DMV I've ever been in. (And I've been in a lot of them.)

Unfortunately, I still don't have a license...

So, after getting all that huge mess with the suspended licenses all taken care of, I finally went in to the DMV today to get my new Oregon license.

I took with me my checkbook, my passport, my California license, a credit card (for additional ID), my credit card statement and my Verizon bill (both to show proof of address).

So, one would think that all this crap would be enough to prove I am who I say I am, and I live where I say I live.

But, no, it is not.

The California license, you see, is no longer ID because it's invalid (because of all the aforementioned suspension problems - and the fact that since I no longer live in California, I cannot get a valid license there, I need to get it reinstated in Oregon, which I'm trying to do).
The Verizon bill is not valid proof of address because the date is on the portion that I sent in with the payment, so, with no date, they can't verify that it's a current address.
The credit card statement is not valid proof of address because It's from October, and thus doesn't prove that I still live there today.
A credit card is not valid as ID at all at the DMV. (They used to take them as secondary ID at many places, but I guess the DMV isn't one of them).

So, I need to go back, again, with more current mail (fortunately, I get a lot of junk mail so I can use one of those), and need to bring in either social security card or my birth certificate. I have no idea where the hell my social security card is. I had it only about a year ago, but can't find it now. I suspect it may have been left in the photocopy machine at Vodafone when they copied it when I first got that job.
Fortunately, my mother called this afternoon right after I got home, and she has a certified copy of my birth certificate in my files.
Which means I get to go back to the DMV immediately after Christmas (and it has to be done by the end of the month, because starting in 2004 they're changing the rules on what they can accept as ID/proof of address again to make it even more inconvenient).

And then, I'm sure, the fun will really begin.

Frankly, given all my past experiences with the DMV I will be really shocked if I can actually walk in with all this stuff and walk out the same day with a valid drivers license...

We'll see.
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So I spent all day again today on the phone to the DMV and various related groups.
After an excruciating process of dragging information out of people who seem to do their best not to volunteer any information, I finally have the whole story. I think.

The whole damn DMV story. )
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I don't know what it is. I apparently have pissed off some traffic gods at some time, because I've had so many problems with the DMV in both Oregon and California that I pretty much expect to have problems whenever I go in for any reason. It's gotten to the point where I'm shocked if I can go in and conduct even a simple transaction such as renewing vehicle registration without a major hassle.

So I'm not even surprised, just pissed off, about the latest )
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A few things I wanted to mention, but didn't get around to before:

First the least painful recent experience: I needed a root canal.
Yay.
warning: medical details )

Then, there was my date.

My proudest failed date yet )

And then, there's the DMV:
Fear and Loathing at the Department of Motor Vehicles )

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